Wednesday, February 5, 2014

Cat DeSpira
3 hours ago · Edited
Women of the Arcades: I often read articles written recently that state over and over again that women/girls weren't part of the early arcade scene. I always shake my head because I remember an arcade scene teeming with teenaged and little girls. Another discrepancy I have is that whenever women are mentioned it seems to always claim they played Ms.Pac-Man. But the fact of the matter is women/girls were drawn to the shooters and driving games more than any other game style while also enjoying all the others...just as the guys did. Many arcades were actually owned and operated by women.

Maybe one day history will get it right 

(selection of over 200 photos of women in arcades I have a collected)
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  • 16 people like this.
  • Daniel R Pizana Its gotta be the joy stick.....! Tasteless, I know, but I don't really care for people with no sense of humor! 
    2 hours ago
  • Trickman Terry Last year my wife went through and finished TMNT arcade with a female friend of ours. Months earlier, she went through Final Fight with another one of her female friends. Not all women are attracted to just Ms. Pac-Man and Tetris.
    2 hours ago · 1
  • Cat DeSpira You got joystick envy, Daniel?
    2 hours ago · 2
  • Daniel R Pizana No, I was born with a good one!
    2 hours ago
  • Daniel R Pizana Sigmund Freud and some of his successors might have something to say though! 
    2 hours ago · 1
  • Daniel R Pizana Funky music!
    2 hours ago · 1
  • Cat DeSpira Well, since he made the connection between guns, knives and gladiator sports I'd think he would have something to say about that, for sure.
    2 hours ago · Edited
  • Daniel R Pizana Testosterone driven death and destruction!! RAAWR!!
    2 hours ago
  • Patrick Scott Patterson Yeah... I don't understand how or why people claim this. Not only do I remember a lot of girls and women in each of the arcades that I frequented back in the day, I'm actually married to one that got started in gaming with Q*bert and Moon Patrol when they were new. I also have a huge number of archived articles from back in the day that speak of how games like Pac-Man and Centipede in particular were bringing women into the arcades. I guess the early "history" of the scene was written by people who'd rather paint video games as some sort of "boys club" that it has never been.
    2 hours ago · 1
  • Cat DeSpira I have some photos of arcade scoreboards with many women's names in the top...all on shooters. I'd post them but I am not keen on giving away my hard won research...just yet as I have not found those women yet 
    2 hours ago
  • Patrick Scott Patterson The longest standing arcade record on Twin Galaxies (Star Fire) was held by a woman.
    2 hours ago · 1
  • Cat DeSpira I did not know that.
    2 hours ago
  • Patrick Scott Patterson Laura Curran... January 1982.
    2 hours ago
  • Trickman Terry It seemed to be all-inclusive in the late '70s and early '80s. When the Rambo-esque type of games started coming out in droves, I think that's when the tide turned, at least in media and marketing.
    2 hours ago · 1
  • Daniel R Pizana I know I put a couple of my GF's names on the high scores I got in some of the fighter games like Street Fighter. Not saying anything, but just saying! >:P
    2 hours ago
  • Patrick Scott Patterson Exactly, Terry. At the time there wasn't any of this "boys only" stuff that some now claim was (or even still is) the norm. I have an interview clip of Nintendo's Howard Phillips from 1990 I should post. He speaks there of how 30 percent of their business was female and growing in number... and that was at the peak of the NES.
    2 hours ago
  • Cat DeSpira I am almost convinced it was console marketing that pushed the boys club. Visual marketing seems to indicate that.
    2 hours ago · 1
  • Daniel R Pizana You mean all the scantily dressed ladies and such? No way! >.>
    2 hours ago
  • Cat DeSpira The scantily ladies began appearing as a standard around 1996. Before, those kinds of images seemed have been sparse. Then...the era of gigantic titties and 14 inch waists began appearing.
    2 hours ago · 1
  • Patrick Scott Patterson The 16-bit era was indeed full of that... or at least where it became far more commonplace. Could very well be where the misconceptions that are still plaguing gaming now came from. If I had a nickel for every "news" bit I've seen in recent years that calls video gaming something for "boys" and/or seems shocked at "girls" taking them up... as if it's something new.
    2 hours ago
  • Trickman Terry Lara Croft (original version)
    2 hours ago
  • Daniel R Pizana I must confess though, I've never been interested in to many arcade games as I always found them boring to play for extended periods of time and I had no interest in getting a high score on one of them for the shear purpose of bragging rights. I had girls to date and RPGs to play.
    2 hours ago
  • Trickman Terry Marketing never seemed to get past that. They kept making things pink and offering dress-up and babysitting games (I'm looking at you, Imagine) for girls to play.
    2 hours ago · 3
  • Daniel R Pizana That sounds sexist a bit to me, and I'm not even a feminist!
    2 hours ago · 1
  • Daniel R Pizana Funny how a company named "Imagine" lacked an imagination!
    2 hours ago · 1
  • Trickman Terry They also added an annoying "Z" to the end of every title. Babyz...Horsez... UGH! 
    2 hours ago · 1
  • Cat DeSpira I think Custer's Revenge and the huge popularity it had and subsequent controversy was the turning point as games for the 2600 and the C4 started churning out nasty games that, although humorous as hell, paved the way for alienated themes. Games afterwards toned them down yet the concept of using women as erotic marketing images remained. I don't know for sure but the timing is right.
    2 hours ago · 1
  • Daniel R Pizana My wife kicks my ass at some of the fighting games I have. Having the machismo I was born with, I don't go easy on her anymore..lol. Doesn't mean I always win still. lol
    2 hours ago · 1
  • Daniel R Pizana Sad fact is Cat DeSpira, that sort of thing still works like a charm.
    2 hours ago · 1
  • Daniel R Pizana Well, kinda sad. You know me and my machismo..lol. 
    2 hours ago
  • Cat DeSpira Oh, yeah. Macho man, for sure 
    2 hours ago · 1
  • Cat DeSpira But I know what a softy you are...ha ha
    2 hours ago · 1
  • Daniel R Pizana They be like "boobies!" and I be like "WHERE?!!" and then I see they are pointing to an obese male....... Then I want to KEEL them!!
    2 hours ago · 1
  • Cat DeSpira Holy moly...Daniel.
    2 hours ago · 1
  • Daniel R Pizana I know right!!
    2 hours ago
  • Cat DeSpira I do not know what to say other than "behave yourself" 
    2 hours ago · 1
  • Daniel R Pizana I'm not misbehaving, I'm truth telling! 
    2 hours ago
  • Trickman Terry The home computer game developers, distributors and marketers were at least somewhat to blame, I agree. Look at the point and click/adventure games of the time... Leisure Suit Larry series & Leather Goddesses of Phobos to name a couple.
    2 hours ago · 2
  • Daniel R Pizana Leather Goddesses of Phobos? I'm TOTALLY looking that one up now!
    2 hours ago
  • Trickman Terry Backfired. LOL
    2 hours ago · 2
  • Daniel R Pizana WHAAA?! That is so 80s!!!! LOL! The hair...oh god the hair!
    2 hours ago
  • Cat DeSpira Mystique from Caballero Control Corporation, a porn film company, made the most awful one's. I mean, "Eat 'em and Beat 'em"? Ever see that one? Yikes.
    2 hours ago · 1
  • Daniel R Pizana Haven't but I'm going to look now..lol!
    2 hours ago
  • Cat DeSpira Commordore 64 had the most sex titles. Some of the silliest and most crude ones came from Germany.
    2 hours ago
  • Trickman Terry Yeah, C-64 was a hotbed (pun intended) for this type of stuff. Though a lot of it was underground and sitting on BBS (bulletin board) sites (pre-world wide web)
    2 hours ago
  • Daniel R Pizana lmao, the "Eat'em and Beat'em" game looks like a bunch of naked sprites eating Tic-Tacs falling from an anus!
    2 hours ago · 1
  • Trickman Terry Granted, those Mystique games weren't the norm. They were pretty much back of the magazine mail order fodder.
    2 hours ago
  • Caitlin Oliver This is the reason I'm not totally sold on the tagline for No Princess... there's nothing to retake, we've been here the whole time :B
    2 hours ago · 3
  • Daniel R Pizana Here's a newer-ish one that came out for the PS2 Cat DeSpiraPLAYBOY: The Mansion..lmao..what a total mess..lol!
    2 hours ago
  • Daniel R Pizana I've no real interest in playing any games like this, they are only good for laughs. I prefer RL!
    2 hours ago
  • Cat DeSpira Maybe so, Caitlin, but there is a retaking of the image and the history to be done.
    2 hours ago
  • Caitlin Oliver Forget retaking it, destroy it and build a new one.
    2 hours ago
  • Rob Strangman Hmm. Given this information, the way I figure it, I was just talking to the wrong girls all through school.
    2 hours ago · 1
  • Caitlin Oliver Well I can tell you pretty much nobody bothered talking to me outside of the people I had LAN parties with so yeah, probably.
    2 hours ago
  • Daniel R Pizana On a serious note. I never realized this was such a big deal to people. I mean they are just games, right? I understand the sexist undertones but...to me it just doesn't seem as important a subject to deal with when there are far worse and more serious inequality issues. Its not like I can't understand what its like to be discriminated against. Being a minority male, I've had to deal with such things for all my life. I've just learned to get over the small stuff and concentrate on the big stuff. Sorry, I got all serious there, but I wanted to toss that in there.
    2 hours ago
  • Daniel R Pizana The only thing wrong there Rob is that you didn't talk to ALL girls..lol. I talked to every girl regardless of their appearance and/or "social status".
    2 hours ago
  • Rob Strangman I did too, don't get me wrong. I just learned to not bring videogames up after the negative responses I'd received early on.
    about an hour ago · Edited
  • Cat DeSpira Type in the subject: Everyone from the NY Times to countless zines and periodicals are talking about subjects related to this ranging from women being paid lower wages in the gaming industry, to harassment to visual practicing of marginalization on down to women's roles in gaming history being damned near unrecorded. It the one of the hottest topics to erupt over the last year.
    about an hour ago · 1
  • Trickman Terry It never started out this way. "Have you played Atari today" commercials showed entire families playing together in front of their TVs...grandparents included. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jewvJrREVII
    about an hour ago · 1
  • Daniel R Pizana Back to my previous statement I will say what my grandfather always told me: "For each war there is a specific soldier needed and for each soldier there is a specific war".
    about an hour ago
  • Caitlin Oliver It doesn't seem important to you because you are a man. Minority or not you enjoy privilege we do not simply based on our gender. Presuming that because you have experienced some discrimination you understand how we feel exactly is... well, presumptuous at best. What you consider to be 'small stuff' is in fact a very important facet of life to some - I have spent a huge portion of my life being berated for my gender for one of the things I love most.
    about an hour ago · 2
  • Rob Strangman I'm genuinely curious about something here, because Caitlin's last comment got me thinking. We all know that there is a vocal majority of males that act like complete and total dipshits when they find out that there's a woman involved in a hobby they like, be it comics, videogames, etc. But Caitlin, Cat (and any other woman involved in this topic) - have you been berated by members of your own gender for your involvement in the hobby? Or have the comments been mainly supportive?

    Like I said, genuinely curious here. This is something I don't think I've ever seen discussed.
    about an hour ago · 1
  • Daniel R Pizana I don't think I enjoy such grandiose privileges that you seem to imply I have. There are some advantages, but its not like I'm treated all that better. I have always had to deal with white people believing because I am not white and I'm not as financially as well off that I am an idiot that should only be doing grunt work. I'm not fit to be put in charge of anything important, I could not possibly understand what they knew and so on and so forth. As a matter of fact, I have as good a chance at being an executive in a white male's business as women do, maybe a bit less of a chance. What say you to my wife is is a minority woman (Cambodian) who has to work twice as hard as white women do for the same "white" privileges? She read some of the previous comments and she is the one that said to me "Why is women in gaming such a big deal? Its not as if its an important enough fight?". Pick your battles wisely sort of thing. She has been berated both because she is a woman AND a minority. and by minority I mean LOOKS like a minority and not a European "race".
    about an hour ago
  • Caitlin Oliver so you're turning this into an argument about you in order to try to belittle what struggles we deal with, cool beans man

    other things I'm sick of include being berated for being white but actually being hispanic, but I'm not brown enough for anyone to notice - minority to white people, not enough of a minority for the brown people

    good job, thanks
    about an hour ago
  • Caitlin Oliver And Rob, to answer your legitimate question as opposed to arguing that "my shit is worse than your shit" crap, of course I have been berated by women for being involved in gaming, just usually not by other women who share the hobby. Which is probably why it's difficult for me to make friends with women, frankly.
    about an hour ago
  • Daniel R Pizana I'm not turning this into an argument about me, just using my ...wife and I as an example to counter you're struggles. I'm opposite of you though, I am more white (Irish) than I am Italian/Native American...but do you think I'm treated as white? No, I'm not because I don't LOOK white. For the record, Spain IS a white European "race" unless you mean Mexican.
    about an hour ago
  • Caitlin Oliver Not that it's a lick of your goddamn business but yes, I'm Mexican.
    about an hour ago
  • Cat DeSpira Rob Strangman: I've never been berated by a woman. But what I have had is women berate me for being "opinionated" about the gaming scene because they feared agreeing with me or supporting me would cast a negative light on them. That whole "guilty by association" thing. Being an opinionated and strong woman in this scene is not wanted by quite a lot of people. A woman who does have a strong and active role is always labeled "a bitch" or "problematic". You'll notice men with actual behavioral problems loose little respect or credibility when they pull their stunts yet "an opinionated woman" will instantly be labeled "ineffective" or "unprofessional". 

    There are even women who support my views and the issues I often address but who are too afraid to step forward because they are afraid of being targeted like I was. That is fact. So I certainly hold dear the few women in this scene who, knowing that, still choose to step up and face the fire.
    about an hour ago · 3
  • Caitlin Oliver And that's the problem, you are trying to COUNTER ARGUE someone else's pain with "well I have it worse" - that is NOT PRODUCTIVE and frankly insulting.
    about an hour ago · 1
  • Daniel R Pizana I don't think mine is "worse" than yours I don't do that kinda of argument. Unless you believe mine is worse. I think it is comparable at least. And it seems to me that your argument was "I have pain that someone like you could never understand!" Which is not entirely true. Getting things out in the open is almost always productive. It allows for a psychological release of sorts. And for the record you said "It doesn't seem important to you because you are a man. Minority or not you enjoy privilege we do not simply based on our gender. Presuming that because you have experienced some discrimination you understand how we feel exactly is... well, presumptuous at best." you were doing the exact thing you are accusing me of.....assuming your pain is worse then mine or my wife's. Then you follow it up with demonizing my opinions when I did not demonize you at all. That is counter-productive.
    about an hour ago
  • Rob Strangman Thanks, Caitlin & Cat. I appreciate the answers. I'm still working on writing my chapter on bullying for MoaVC, and this definitely gives me additional food for thought.
    about an hour ago · 2
  • Caitlin Oliver I never said mine was WORSE, I said it is not something you have a grasp on based on gender. I didn't say you couldn't sympathize but empathize is another thing entirely. You attempted to argue it and just fuck this.
    about an hour ago · 1
  • Cat DeSpira I actually had women who declined being in the documentary because they feared speaking up would ruin their reputations, their careers and/or lead to online serial harassment. That they felt they could not speak up or even step into the spotlight for a moment made me very sad. But it also made me realize just how much of a double standard there is in the way of different moral standards. Men have far more opportunities to express themselves as a whole, pro or con, whereas a women's opinion or conduct is deeply scrutinized almost as if everything she does is suspicious.
    about an hour ago
  • Zoe Howard You mean we don't only play ms pac man??? Lol. Screw that. I can't even count the classic arcade games I used to play as a kid on one hand. Ms pac man was never a high priority. Asteroids and space invaders for the win! Oh and tron. Lol
    about an hour ago · 2
  • Kevin Bunch I sympathize entirely with the crap women and other non-white dudes put up with in geekier pursuits and in the world at large. Because holy shit, it has to get exhausting.
    about an hour ago · 3
  • Cat DeSpira Space Invaders, Centipede, Defender were the first games I ever got into. Everyone was into those.
    about an hour ago · 2
  • Zoe Howard I will admit I wasn't a huge centipede fan as a kid. It has grown on me since but I preferred pole position over centipede defender is good though.
    about an hour ago · 2
  • Cat DeSpira Pole Position was so rad!!
    about an hour ago · 2
  • Daniel R Pizana I can both empathize and sympathize since, as I've said, my wife is a woman and she is a minority and I've seen her struggles first hand and supported her with every fiber of my being. So do not assume otherwise, it just makes for bad form. She may not be a woman gamer (for the record I am using woman here to be specific and not to discriminate) but she has every struggle you have. I know you didn't say specifically you had it worse, it seemed implied to me. Just the same way you assumed I was implying certain things. Anger seems to be getting in the way of proper communication, but since you have no desire to communicate with me its all good, I will sleep fine either way. 
    about an hour ago
  • Caitlin Oliver Yeah except I have a non-white dude saying "I didn't think this was a big deal, I have it hard too" and no she doesn't have every struggle I have because she has nothing to do with this field that I am being actively discriminated against in fuckity fUFKCDCUKFUCK
    about an hour ago
  • Caitlin Oliver You're right, I have absolutely no desire to communicate with you.
    about an hour ago
  • Kevin Bunch If memory serves, my grandma played River Raid on the 2600 pretty much until she had a stroke and couldn't do it anymore. I also seem to recall my mom loved Pong and played a fair few Atari games back in the day... and my sister and I played pretty much all the same games through the 80s (we have since diverged in tastes). No clue why this idea that women don't game ever got such a foothold, but it can go away anytime now.
    about an hour ago · 2
  • Daniel R Pizana Cat DeSpira my wife had a co-worker that refused to say something about some sexual harassment issues for a similar reason, she was afraid no one would believe her and look at her as a liar.
    about an hour ago · 1
  • Zoe Howard River raid is so much fun. Your grandma has good taste 
    about an hour ago · 1
  • Rob Strangman Cat DeSpira - that there's that kind of BS that would stop anyone from participating in the doc just makes me incredibly sad. In fact, everything you said there makes me sad. And shake my head, a lot.

    On a side note, I'd be willing to bet my GF would have quite a bit to say on this subject - she's been into computers since she was little, and is quite the accomplished gamer. She's not really into arcade-style games like myself (too twitchy for her, she says) - she prefers PC adventures and the like - but that's fine. We balance each other out nicely.
    about an hour ago · 3
  • Dave Danzara <-----nerdy white dude who likes classic gaming.
    about an hour ago · 4
  • Daniel R Pizana You're right Caitlin, she doesn't and the way you are acting its a damn good thing too. I hope things get better for you, you seem like you have a lot of passion and I respect that whether you care or not.
    about an hour ago
  • Kevin Bunch She did! She also never understood why you'd need a new game system when you've got all these perfectly fine cheap games already. That said, she did buy me an Intellivision around 91, 92, at a church sale, with a bunch of games, for $5, so she clearly was not opposed to getting other systems as long as they were cheap enough 
    about an hour ago · 1
  • Cat DeSpira Daniel:Since you are not all that familiar with the gaming scene, I'm cutting you some slack. I know you are not aware of some of the issues in the gaming scene. Like, you never had a random guy send you pics of his dick, or had your value and persona fall on how "hot" you are to the point that if you don't fit the image of marketable beauty you get passed over or labeled uselsss. You may not also realize that insults leveled at us are not "lame", "noob" or even "asshole" but insults against us sexually and against our bodies; i.e. "cunt", "bitch", "whore", "dyke" "fat and ugly" and sundry other phases too vulgar to post.

    Therein lays the road to the misogyny we face all the time if we choose to not be subordinate in our image and actions.
    about an hour ago · 3
  • Daniel R Pizana Maybe one of days, probably after I'm long gone, the world will be free of racial, sexual and other discriminations.
    about an hour ago · 3
  • Cat DeSpira One can only hope.
    about an hour ago · 2
  • Daniel R Pizana I'm actually aware of those Cat, but thanks for the slack, its not necessary. However, those types of things are not limited to the gaming scene, my wife (as well as many other women in my life) have had that happen at work and in school. My point is that we should be worrying about that stuff as a whole and not just in the gaming scene. Cutting the weed doesn't kill it, you have to go to the root, the problem there is that some of those damn roots are nigh untouchable. It is just going to take time and patience and anger has never solved any situation completely, it usually makes it worse. Its better to make calculated decisions than it is to make them based on shear anger and other negative emotions.
    about an hour ago
  • Cat DeSpira The Civil Rights Movement started over a seat on a bus.
    about an hour ago · 1
  • Daniel R Pizana Yeah, and it hasn't been resolved yet has it?
    about an hour ago · 1
  • Kevin Bunch I don't blame anyone for being pissed and upset if they're getting judged solely on their looks and being sent dick picks for no reason. Frankly if you're not pissed you're not going to get anything changed.
    about an hour ago · 1
  • Cat DeSpira Change is only made over a period of generations as long as the proceeding one does not take a step back. I'm proud of the young women gamers who refuse to take that comfortable step back now.
    about an hour ago · 1
  • Daniel R Pizana there was a lot of anger in the Civil Rights movement though. But you look at Mahatma Ghandi, he went practiced peace the whole time through violence and jail, and eventually he was successful
    about an hour ago · 1
  • Daniel R Pizana Never, ever step back, keep moving and eventually you will arrive where you want to be
    about an hour ago
  • Zoe Howard Change happens. whether by force or so subtle you don't even see it. Making ones current environment happier for them can affect the masses. You start with familiar territory. Even John Lennons music had that effect. His listeners felt it and that affected their world and so forth.
    58 minutes ago · 1
  • Cat DeSpira Yeah, but were was his greatest allies? THE MEDIA
    58 minutes ago
  • Kevin Bunch Ghandi wasn't the only one fighting for independence from the UK, though.
    58 minutes ago
  • Daniel R Pizana Maybe the media of that time was good...lol. but the crap we have nowadays...noway
    58 minutes ago
  • Daniel R Pizana They look to demonize everyone and everything to make a story
    57 minutes ago
  • Daniel R Pizana Half the damn world was fighting the UK for that at one time or another.
    56 minutes ago
  • Daniel R Pizana BTW Cat DeSpira, your posts are always fun for me in one way or another, they really give me the chance to "hear" different people and it helps me succeed in my psychology classes..lol
    54 minutes ago · 1
  • Daniel R Pizana *oops, shows my hand*
    54 minutes ago
  • Daniel R Pizana I RELISH debates, whether I have a dog in the fight or not, whether I win or not..lol
    52 minutes ago
  • Cat DeSpira Yeah, well, here's a heads up, my friend: Never tell a woman what she feels emotionally about something is "wrong" or "out of perspective". Key to peace, right there.
    52 minutes ago · 3
  • Daniel R Pizana If I worried about what people would think about what I say, I'd be just like the people that are afraid to move forward. Whats that quote? "Well behaved women rarely make history" Just replace women with people and you got all bases covered. 
    48 minutes ago
  • Daniel R Pizana Besides, doing that only helps me learn more about people in general, women and men.
    47 minutes ago
  • Daniel R Pizana I just keep my own anger in check and let everything roll
    47 minutes ago
  • Cat DeSpira May I point out one thing: This initial post was simply photos of women from BITD. Look where it went all of a sudden? 

    It does that every time. The reason why is reason the movement is underway 
    41 minutes ago · 3
  • Daniel R Pizana That's why i said what I said earlier about your posts, I get to try and put myself into the shoes of others and play the devil's advocate.
    37 minutes ago
  • Haleigh Yonish Cat's not saying "don't say what you want to say," but rather urging you to understand the implications of your words when you're talking about oppression. It's not to shut you up, it's to help guide things.
    34 minutes ago · 2
  • Daniel R Pizana I know what she is saying, and my answer is the same. Thank you for giving me the benefit of the doubt.  People will always draw their own conclusions about any given statement anyone makes, I'm not a fan of being PC unless under very specific circumstances. And Cat knows me well enough to know i'm about as easy to shut up as she is..lol
    31 minutes ago
  • Daniel Desjardins Wow I just read this whole thing and actually have some points to make. Just an observation here but Caitlin every time there is a "heated" discussion on most any topic you come across (at least to me) that your opinion is the only one that matters and that your obstacles in life are so much more that anyone else could remotely comprehend and immediately want to block them or the "no desire to communicate with you" is thrown around. Why get involved in discussions then if all you want to do is say "My trials and tribulations are 1000x worse than you could understand and not try and have a civil conversation about it? You seem to have a huge chip on your shoulder if that person disagreeing with you is someone of the male gender as you make sure to point that out as you did about the "non-white dude" above. Just so you know in case perhaps you don't that is insanely degrading to the person you are addressing and is actually the thing you are trying to debate which is just a little hypocritical to me. If they said the same to you I would bet you would be offended. Anyway to the original subject of this post - Cat I don't agree that woman/girls were not part of the "golden days" of the arcade back then. That is indeed wrong. Why people think the female gender didn't know what the inside of an arcade looked like is beyond me. I think the issue lies in that so few would seen in the arcades compared to men/boys that it just became this assumption that woman and gaming didn't mix and that was like a runaway train from there. Or even worse it was just the nerds/geeks that liked games (Be it male or female) so they weren't worth the time to talk about - I think all of that stuff is wrong as a whole. There are jerks on both sides of the gender line and even though its nowhere near as socially acceptable to do this type of stuff now versus the 70's/80's it still occurs at an alarming rate. Its way to easy to do it now with the anonymity the internet gives to these bullies. Sorry for the length here 
    12 minutes ago · 1
  • Daniel R Pizana  My main man Daniel!! I've never met you before but you at least saw what my point was!
    9 minutes ago


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